Phoebe Gates' Secret Harvard Class on Manipulation
Discussion on rumors of a Harvard class teaching manipulation attended by Phoebe Gates.
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Key points
- Rumors of a secret Harvard class teaching manipulation.
- Phoebe Gates allegedly attended the class.
- Guests speculate on the class's existence and Phoebe's involvement.
- Debating whether Phoebe is being unfairly targeted.
What they discussed
The discussion revolves around rumors of a secret Harvard class that supposedly teaches manipulation and how to rule the world. It is mentioned that Phoebe Gates, Bill Gates' daughter, allegedly attended this class.,The guests express skepticism about the existence of such a class and suggest that the rumors might be an attempt to manipulate the narrative around Phoebe Gates. They also discuss the resentment people feel towards Phoebe due to her being a 'nepo baby' and an Instagram influencer.,The conversation also touches on the legal implications of such a class and whether Phoebe's actions could be considered criminal. However, it is noted that she stopped the controversial actions as soon as they were reported.,The host expresses his intention to further adjudicate this case on the show in the following week.
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hanging out. If you go to GSB, >> if you if you wind up going GSB route, um, Professor Feifer, Prof. Feifer does a course called Power >> and there's a case study in it about this podcaster, blogger, kid from Brooklyn who accumulated far too much power than he deserves. Oh, no. >> In Silicon Valley and it's about me and I go every year to talk to the students about accumulating power through media >> and other things. So, good luck, Ethan. Uh, hopefully I'll see you on campus. >> Thanks, Ethan. Yeah, likewise. See you guys around. Peace out. >> That's like that Harvard class that Bill Gates's daughter was in that teaches you how to manipulate people and cheat. Did you hear about that? >> Oh, how how to manipulate your son. [laughter] >> Yeah. No, it is. Apparently, the rumor is there's a Harvard class that's about like how to rule the world through manipulation. It's like a secret a secret class. And they say that that Yeah. that Phoebe Gates was in it and that's where she learned. >> Oh, I think she's being railroaded. I'll be honest. Uh >> really? Wow. cuz I think there might be >> at first you were >> I think this might be like a con I think everybody's kind of trying to manipulate the attribution tag. Um and so I think >> well I'll be honest if she wasn't Bill Gates's daughter >> and she was a dude. >> I'm going to be honest like on two levels. Nepo baby plus woman. >> Yeah. Plus, let's uh she's like a I think she's kind of like an Instagram influencer type, so that has a little baggage with it. Makes people >> table. It's Khloe Kardashian. It's Sydney Sween. >> People resent it. >> Exactly. >> People resent her for being an Epo baby. Resent her for celebrity connections. Resent her for her Instagram stuff. And um if it had been a guy, same set of circumstances. I wonder and I don't have all the details of it because it's a little bit like in >> we'll see. >> None of us. >> I'm guessing somebody might say to the founder, that's a really clever growth hack. >> Trying to get the attribution tag uh so you get the commission. Wow, it's a good growth hack. >> They call it >> Well, they might be like you should probably read the terms of services because you might be in a gray area. That might be how the conversation actually went down >> in my experience in a board meeting because I've seen people go to the gray >> and have these kind of situations. And I always say to them, it feels a little gray. >> Maybe we should read the terms of services and maybe back off this, you know, a little bit. It might be, >> you know, we could get in trouble for this, >> but there might is. Is is this like a criminal legal case? >> I don't I mean, I don't think so. No. And they stopped doing it. As soon as the report came out that said they were doing it, they stopped doing it. So I no I don't think >> anyway I want to adjudicate this case. I'm going to adjudicate this next week on the show. I'll see you on Monday and I will put on my robe. >> This is this week in startups this week in startups.com at twwi startups. We'll see you next time. Bye bye. Bye-bye.