This Week in Startups
This Week in Startups
Jason Calacanis covers startups, tech, markets, media, and all the hottest topics in business and technology. He also interviews the world’s greatest founders, operators, investors, and innovators.
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xAI’s App Store lawsuit, Intel shares vs. grocery stores, and Netskope’s IPO | E2169

Aug 25, 2025 • 74 mins

Today’s show: On an upbeat and optimistic new TWiST, Jason and Alex are debating why any new innovation or technology gets hit with a wave of bitter cynicism. PLUS Jason defends the government taking shares of Intel, explains the importance of interoperability, and predicts how AirBnB’s Joe Gebbia will upgrade the US government’s website design. All that PLUS thoughts on the Netskope IPO, Perplexity offering publishers actual revenue share, a deep dive on the new AI-based PAC, thoughts on open-source LLMs, and much much much more.

Key Points

  • Government bailouts should come with conditions that allow taxpayers to recoup their investments, as seen in the Intel equity stake scenario.
  • Tech companies need to address the anticompetitive practices of app stores to ensure a fair playing field for all developers, as highlighted by XAI's lawsuit against Apple and OpenAI.
  • Implementing better design in government websites can significantly improve user experience, efficiency, and revenue, as evidenced by Joe Gebbia's appointment as chief design officer of the United States.
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Speakers

Jason Calacanis

Host • 72%

Alex Wilhelm

Host • 24%

Donald Trump

Guest • 2%

Howard Lutnick

Guest • 1%

Claude

Guest • 1%

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